From: William Putnam
To: Curtis Johnson
Date: Feb 17 1998 8:47:00 pm
Subject: Case #5 2/4
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>	Never heard the term "autohypnosis," have you?

I just covered it!  I sure want to know how
self-hypnosis can have the body subsist with
only the Blessed Sacrament!  Got an answer for
that, Curtis?

WP> Therese came to take less and less food, until a time came when
WP> the only solid food taken was the Eucharist (the consecrated
WP> bread of Holy Communion.) She subsisted on only this meager meal
WP> for many years and up until her death.  She was closely monitored,
WP> and her every move was documented, and it has been carefully
WP> determined that indeed, the Eucharist was her ONLY meal.

CJ> Scurvy weakens the walls of blood vessels.  It's the
CJ> first deficiency of a bread-and-water diet, which would take
CJ> well over a year to kill through diet deficiencies.

WP> Is this relevant to the issue at hand? What has
WP> this to do with a woman who remained the same
WP> weight throughout this period?  How do you
WP> explain that?

CJ> Claims of subsisting on no food at all are sometimes
CJ> met in the holy men of other religions, particularly Hindu.
CJ> Why is your claim evidence for your religion, but not theirs
CJ> for their religion?

WP> Curtis, I have never claimed that the Catholic
WP> Church is the only religion that has these
WP> phenomenon.  I simply have not seen it
WP> documented. If the holy Hindu monks actually
WP> did this, good for them!  How well is this
WP> documented, Curtis?

>	Well, let's just see how well this claim of subsisting
> through the host alone is, shall we?

Good!

>	To continue with the Enc. Brit. article:  "Following her
> stigmatization, Therese claimed to live without food or drink,
> being sustained only by Holy Communion.  At the request of her
> bishop she was subjected to a fortnight's investigation in 1927.
> Later the church authorities recognized this to have been
> inconclusive, ashysterical subjects are known to be able to
> sustain a complete fast for more than three weeks; in 1932 and
> 1937 she was requested to submit to another examination but
> refused, alleging that her father forbade her to do so."  (Note:
> she was born in 1898, making her 39 in 1937!)

>	Putnam, if you don't feel a great anger at having been
> hoodwinked by your source, you are indeed hopelessly gullible.

Curtis, do you notice something strange about the
information you give above?  Now, I don't have the
Encyclopedia Britianica to refer to, but I find it
very strange that you gloss over the fact that the
CHURCH (I say again, C-H-U-R-C-H, as in "Church
authorities" above) that is the most skeptical! Is
that the most obvious stance that the Catholic
Church would take under the circumstances?

Curtis, I tell you what. I am going to do you a favor
and scan the chapter that concerns her fasting from
all food and even drink.  I don't expect you to believe
it off the bat, but for you to simply consider it:

Courtesy of my H-P scanner:

Quote....

ABSTINENCE FROM FOOD AND DRINK

In the years when she was suffering for the seminarian,
Therese was not able to swallow the whole Host at daily
Communion. Father Naber therefore decided that she should
be given a very small particle of the Host and just enough
water to enable her to swallow the sacred species.  At this
time, in the spring of 1922, Therese had lost the urge
to eat anything whatever and felt no need for food.  It
is an established fact that after that time she did not
take any solid food in any way, shape or form for the
rest of her life; thus her total abstinence lasted 40
years.  The infinitesimal amount of water which she used
in properly swallowing the Host was not enough to sustain
life.  Even that bit of water was dispensed with in 1926,
as we shall see.

Shortly before Christmas, 1926, Father Naber was away
from the parish for a few days.  A priest from a
neighboring village said the Masses in Konnersreuth each
morning and attended to the religious affairs of the
parish.  The short sojourn of this visiting priest-who,
apparently inadvertently, omitted the sip of water that
Therese had been given introduced an important transition
in the life of Therese Neumann.  On his return to
Konnersreuth, Father Naber-whether by divine inspiration
or from his realization that the sip of water was utterly
negligible as sustenance-did not require Therese to take
any water from then on, either on the occasion of her
Communion or at any other time.  She subsisted and was
nourished by nothing except the Holy Eucharist.

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