From: Curtis Johnson
To: William Putnam
Date: Feb 20 1998 4:19:07 pm
Subject: Case #5 3/4
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WP> remain in Therese's body.  Even a drop of water that may
WP> have trickled down her throat in the process of brushing
WP> her teeth was immediately ejected.  For this reason, she

How on earth could one possibly check such an

WP> presume to deny it in Therese's case because of its alleged
WP> impossibility would also have to deny all the other certified,
WP> incontestable cases of inedia that are found in the lives
WP> of other saintly and specially favored people.

"Favored people"?  Depriving someone of the pleasures
of a good meal for decades is supposed to be a favor???

WP> supernatural manner.  The Patron Saint of Switzerland, St.
WP> Nicholas of Flue, lived without food and water for over
WP> twenty years.  His only nourishment was the monthly

WP> All these cases were subjected to the most gruelling
WP> investigations from both sides, pro and con, and found
WP> to be authentic.

Nicholas of Flue--I'm unable to find a mention of him,
or Flue.  My general sources on countries do not list their
patron saints.
Emmerich--Unable to find.  Wait--I did find a couple of
lines on her in the 1912 Enc. Brit. under "Stigmatization,"
but no mention of anorexia, only that she was more celebrated
for visions and prophecies than her stigmata.  b. 1773.
Angela of Foligno--The town exists in Italy, but can't
find her.
von Reute--Unable to find, likewise Lidwina, Lazzari,
and Lateau.

While I don't have the Catholic Encyclopedia, or a
listing of saints, your source seems to have picked very obscure
and hard-to-verify names, if they existed.
I rather doubt that investigation would have been more
thorough than for Neumann, and we've already seen how weak that
claim--basically, Neumann's word for it.

WP> In not one of these cases has this supernatural phenomenon
WP> ever been "explained" by human investigations and laboratory

Very easily explained by fraud, though.

WP> tests.  Such unusual occurrences are an act of God, and man
WP> will never be able to come up with a valid explanation.
WP> I am one who believes that; I always have, and I always will.

No reason felt by this character to look closely at
things then, is there?

WP> "One very important reason which leads us to believe in the
WP> unquestionable genuineness of Therese's total abstinence from
WP> food is the fact that Therese is deeply grounded in a peculiar
WP> phenomenal relationship with the main ecclesiastical Sacrament,
WP> namely, the Holy Eucharist or the Last Supper." So wrote a
WP> priest who was present on the eve of a Palm Sunday.

She feels fervently about communion, so this itself
is a good reason to think she doesn't need to eat food?
Huh?  This is evidence of anything but that priest's utter

WP> An assistant priest once asked Therese the question, "Don't
WP> you feel any hunger?" She answered immediately, "You know
WP> that I don't eat!" The priest continued, "Do you want to be
WP> greater than the Saviour?  While on earth He ate like we do."
WP> Therese laughed out loud and answered unswervingly, "The
WP> Saviour is able to do everything.  Or don't you know that He
WP> is almighty?"

WP> Then she turned to the priest once more and continued with
WP> great emphasis: "Father, the result from nothing remains
WP> nothing.  I do not live on nothing.  I live on our Saviour.
WP> He revealed to us: 'My Body is truly a food.' Why should
WP> this not truly be the case, if it is His will?"

Note that she didn't answer the priest's question.

WP> weight.  When she was investigated in July of 1927, Therese
WP> weighed 121 pounds.  In 1935 she weighed 140 pounds.
WP> During my visit with her in 1945 she weighed in excess of
WP> 185 pounds; in 1950 she weighed over 200 pounds, and in 1953
WP> her weight had reached over 215 pounds! I mentioned to
WP> Therese in 1953 that she had gained weight since I last saw
WP> her.  Her laughing reply was, "I will no doubt be as heavy
WP> as my grandmother!" She, too, was a large woman and weighed

Beginning to notice how she tries to laugh off
inconvenient facts?

WP> In 1945 I had jokingly asked her what she had done with her
WP> ration cards during the war.  She laughed and replied, "You
WP> know, Mr. Vogl, there are many mouths to feed in the Neumann
WP> family!" (Actually, she gave them to the poor, as she herself
WP> told me on another occasion.)

IOW, she can't keep her story straight.

WP> Unquote....
WP> But.having done all of this work, I feel that I am
WP> somehow "casting my pearls before swine" with the

And I somehow think I'm talking to a gullible

WP> obsenity that followed in your post. But, I will
WP> post my stuff anyway and simply say, having taken
WP> all of the trouble so for what it is worth, which
WP> you probably will not grant much, I present it for
WP> you to read.

Oh, the condesension!  I am wounded!

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