From: Curtis Johnson
To: Ken Teel
Date: Jan 7 1998 8:05:09 pm
Subject: doubting gods
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-=> Quoting Ken Teel to J. Shaughnessy <=-

FR> The existance of life is evidence that life exists, you nut.

JS> Are you sure???  (Perhapts we are all butterflys dreaming)
JS> Something from the late 60's early 70's...

KT> It's actually an ancient Chinese (Taoist to be precise) saying.

KT> Much older than that.

There's actually a name (sorry, can't remember) of the
man who dreamt that he was a butterfly, then when he woke, asked
how he could be sure that he wasn't a butterfly dreaming that he
was a man.
Actually, there do seem to be tests to distinguish between
the two states.  I rather doubt that one can solve a moderately
complicated mathematical problem in a dream, for instance.

Of course, this butterfly/man/dream is not at all the
response to Fred Rice's "The existence of life is evidence that
life exists"--in either case, there is a dreamer doing the dreaming.

FR> to pretend that gods are responsible for a natural phenomena is no
FR> different than some Siberian savage worshipping the Wind of the North.

JS> But to deny the reality of God because of the confusion is
JS> shutting the door to spiritual freedom. I know that the real
JS> inner man earnestly desires to know is part of man.
JS> To reject is a denial of the evidence you seek.

KT> Please provide empirical evidence of your god.

KT> Namaste-
KT> kt


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