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Fundys
Nope. He was quoted in this weeks' TV Guide. I turned on PI tonight, to see what they would do for Halloween. I got *THE* biggest scare of the whole day. Ann Coulter was there, spouting her anti-Arab racism. AGHGHGHGHGHGH!!!!! She'd scare the shit out of Freddy Krueger! I think I'm simply going to give up on PI. Too many whores and nutcases. Yup.

An Answer to your Questio
Claim? Shit, Joe illustrates that he doesn't have a clue DAILY! :-P And we all know about how so many Christian sects (well, uhmm, cults that is) forbid masturbation. And the "missionary position" wasn't foisted upon people by atheists as the proscribed sexual position for married people. And homosexuals CERTAINLY shouldn't be allowed to have sexual "fun" of their own choice, per Christianity and several other religions. Religion is about CONTROL of other people. And part and parcel of that

Fans of Mariel update
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR holysmoke@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> Couple of months into her first year of Kindergarten. She can write her name. First and last.

Re: ANNE HECHE
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: Jeff Binkley to Show me where I acknowledge my state as one mutable enough to be a "choice."

Re: beef
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: BRAD REDDEKOPP has "OK" Anecdotally, a family highlighted in a story in "Living Without" magazine had one son so severely hypersensitive to foods as an infant, the only things he could eat were venison and sweet potatoes. Creepy story.

Re: right to work
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: John Massey be I sure as fuck hope Mariel's social worker is getting more than that. She's the only one in the school district, that means she handles all the special needs cases, which means coordinating care both in and out of school hours. I expect she'll burn out and move on in under five years, and we'll have to train another.

Re: right to work
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: CHARLES DOLL Not never as To pay off their student loans. Duh. My girlfriend used to be a CSW; after she paid off her loans (also working part time as a registered massage therapist) she used her on the job experience to go for her masters in Occupational Therapy. A year after getting her MA, she has a full caseload, working six

Re: right to work
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: John Massey But not in Silicon Valley.

Re: right to work
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: John Massey Not directly, no.

Re: right to work
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: John Massey They don't. Not in PA. Mariel's services are provided by the state insurer. Private insurers won't cover anything related to her autism.

Re: horror
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: Karl Schneider Small pox, if the drug companies don't get their acts together.

Re: off topic addendum
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: Ed Connell you Adding my two cents to this rather late (it's been a very busy couple of months) if God can take the credit for the people that didn't die, I see no reason why he can't take the blame for the people that did.

Re: PRO-ABORTIONISTS
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: Jeff Binkley I stopped doing that years ago. Every little thing that could have caused my mom to be killed or maimed in the camps could have resulted in my not being born. Hell, if her first husband had survived I wouldn't have been born. If she hadn't adopted my brother, I wouldn't ahve been born. If her doctor had found medical

Re: Palestinians
REPLYTO 1:102/125.99 UUCP REPLYADDR HOLYSMOKE-LIST@salata.com GID GIGO+ sn 148 at salata vsn 0.99.970109 From: Blanche Nonken <blanche@newsguy.com> X-Ftn-To: SATAN So far, nobody's putting any Afghanis in slave labor camps or sticking them in gas chambers or shooting them in the head and tossing them off a cliff. Well, no Americans are. I can't speak for what the Taliban have done over the last few years. Only to people who don't know the details. They can ask my mom about the

Re: "God's Plan" ?
Flipping a coin is both random *and* statistically predictable as the two are not mutually exclusive as you appear to think. Any *individual* coin toss is random but a long run of tosses results in a predictable statistical outcome.

An Answer to your Questio
I'm aware of all this, it's *old* news. Einstein's original fudge factor has been found to be a correct representation of what is in fact happening. The universe is not just expanding but the rate of expansion is *accelerating*! "The greatest blunder of his life" has turned out to be Einstein's greatest acheivement.

An Answer to your Questio
Such appears to be the _thinking_ of a fundy.

Hell House
The one closest to me, (it was in Manitowoc,) ended up closing 2 days before Halloween. Nobody came to it! <G>

An Answer to your Questio
One of the reasons Hindus get so much guff from the fundys is because of their rather frank attitude toward sex. I've seen on TV one temple in India that has sculptures on it so graphic that the TV network (The History Channel) blurred parts of it. I wonder, what does the Koran say about homosexuality? Because I've seen a couple pieces lately now about how fundy Moslems keep their women so beaten down, they end up looking to other